Yoga Teacher Pet Peeves (Part 3) with Byron de Marsé

0:00 All right, listen up everyone, Paul Byron and myself have been working so hard on putting together a platform dedicated specifically to yoga teachers. And the good news is it's almost ready for you soon. This platform is going to be publicly released but we want to actually make a special offer to those who have been dedicated to following us since the beginning. So that's a lot of you listeners right now. We want to make a special offer for you. And if you are interested in

0:28 being one of the founding I'm members of this going pro platform. Then you're going to have an opportunity to do. So. All you need to do is just go into any of the description of any episode and you'll be able to sign up to the waitlist for this going pro platform. So that you can take advantage of this offer will hope to see you there.

0:47 And we are back. This is part three of the three-part series for Pet Peeves, in yoga. If you haven't listened to the last two episodes, then I strongly suggest going back and listen to those episodes first. As this one. The final one is going to build off those last two. Welcome to the going pro yoga podcast, nugget series. My name is Michael Henry and I'm Byron de Marseille and he's short. 15 minute episodes were going to be answering some of the most common questions in.

1:16 Yoga industry. So you can walk away with the answers in a short period of time. That's right. Michael with each topic, that we choose will be discussing it from two different perspectives, the teacher, and the student. I'll be approaching these questions as a physiotherapist or physical therapist with over 10 years experience, treating some of the most common and complex injuries. And my guidance will be from the perspective of having taught 7,000 classes, roughly 10,000

1:39 hours over 10 years. Welcome to our podcast. What I have written here. What is this? A Oh, yeah, this is just in general. This is probably not even a yoga thing. But if someone is in absolute about something, where they say something where it's fact, or they say something, and it's not inclusive and it's, you know, this needs to be this way or this is this, you know, this is something about the world or something like that. Like, it's probably settled.

2:06 It probably doesn't bother a lot of people but for me, I'm just like, I just don't like it when things are viewed as absolute and it's very strong opinion. Strong belief and it's shared in a public way. Because a couple things one you I can feel that energy and I'm just like, what's the like are you using this as your platform to share your strong beliefs type of thing? And then also knowing that people in the classroom, there's going to be someone that absorbs

2:29 that and now all of a sudden that might become their belief as well and that like, you know, it's great if that's your belief, but if some people are sensitive and fragile these things and they learn. So if it's absolute or four strong and people are going to pick it up and then it just kind of carries like a not We a disease or anything like that.

2:48 But like if what they're saying is not true, then yeah, I could spread a lot of false. Be nice to think of an example. An example. Yeah. Yeah, like yoga is going to make you feel good. If I say Yoga Yoga will make you feel good.

3:05 Is that too much of an absolute? Yeah. I don't really like that. I agree. I actually don't like that either. Yeah, how do you know, how do you know? It's gonna make me feel good today? Yeah, you know if you're jumping a little too ahead here.

3:19 Yeah. It's like trust you. It's like sharing things sharing from your experiences saying like yeah, this works really. Well, for me or hey, I find this is really good. This is what I like to do. Your kind of like guiding as opposed to like preaching.

3:31 Mmm. So, I guess, I guess, basically what I'm trying to say is it anyone's preachy about anything like they're trying to like share stuff that they know or their strong belief about something. I'm just like, nah, what about like chaturanga when you bend your elbows like this? It's terrible for your elbows, your shoulder. Yeah.

3:50 I don't, I don't like that. You don't like that. No. Okay. How would I mean? I agree? I agree that. Tap or chaturanga, is definitely terrible for your shoulders, or you don't have the strength to support yourself. Can do damage to your shoulders and you know a year ago when I was before he was even doing it in the stuff. I was just reading articles and seeing what was out there on the internet, what people talk about. And there's just a lot of strong

4:09 beliefs in that situation where they're like, so I don't believe in town to run, guys. I don't do chaturanga. As I don't teach chattering guys and then I'm like, oh, so then me being new to the space, you know, I'm all I know about the body but don't know that much about yoga.

4:21 All of a sudden, I started to formulate this belief that chaturanga is are no good. I shouldn't Should follow this guy's advice and I should talk about like how chattering girls are dangerous for the shoulder. And then the more I like see you and Paul teach and talk about like just, you know, if you knew as you're doing and you do it properly and her some modifications, and if you have the strength, I'm like, oh there's nothing wrong with it. If you do it, right, but I

4:41 almost absorb that strong belief. So doing my due diligence. So, instead of saying don't, you know, don't do this with your elbows. It's terrible in chaturanga. How would you say it? So instead of saying don't do well, don't do well anything like what? The way I would guess we'd Hewitt. Yeah, something like that.

5:05 Keep your elbows in to protect your shoulders. Keep your elbows in to find more strength. Things like that, and give them a reason to know why you're saying it, you know, you don't say keep your elbows in or otherwise, you're going to fuck up your shoulders, you know, that you just encourage them if someone hurts themselves because Listen to you, then. What do you do?

5:28 Right, right. But anyway, so kind of dragged into that one, but that's yeah, I think that's me. Yeah, totally. Okay. So let's was the last one. Oh, yeah. So we talked about this before we started the podcast, when someone gets a little too creative with their queuing, the way, the way that they say things and and you broke it down a little bit differently, but basically, in the example, that is if Someone says a bunch of queuing things and they're

5:52 trying to be really creative in the way that they say it. And I'm like, what? What did you say? I don't even know what you just said. Like, what am I supposed to do? Like, am I supposed to put my, you know, because they're using words that and this is from English. Native speaking to English, native speaking about like, if someone says something and it just doesn't land for me. I'm like, well, what am I supposed to be doing? So like just just get to the

6:12 point, be a little bit more direct. Right, you know, and to just to say I don't mind if it happens radically throughout the class, but if That's the whole class. It's just a lot of creative. Like I don't even know how to follow you. Right?

6:24 So the first thing we brought up least on this episode. We talked about filling space or one of the students. One of the first things filling too much space. Now, we're talking about a very similar thing right where it's it's to over queuing, which is also about less space.

6:42 What I think is interesting is maybe how that space is filled and the perception of Of someone like Michael like you might be perceiving that it's usually flowery language. I think we could agree like like Okay and like like a butterfly reach your arms all the way up to the sky and also as you lift up, there's daily. I lose the rhythm of the whole experience and they're just now you're up here and you're my breathing in and breathing out. Yeah, but that's part of the

7:12 talking too much. Yeah, like imagine you're holding a globe above your head and connecting all the countries. It. And I'm going to throw this pet peeve in because you're doing it and I thought of it like, 30 seconds ago, is the yoga voice is the voice whenever someone like fix their voice, because that's what they think. They're supposed to sound like.

7:33 Yeah. What do you mean? Is I lift my own. Yeah. It's like it's like if I talk like this I'm more Zen and you can tell that I'm a yoga teacher because the way that I'm speaking more eloquently fluidly. Plus this, mystical experience where I don't know why I'm in an An accent right now, exactly how I lift things up, and it's dramatic. And I have this way.

7:56 Yeah. It's a thing. It's one of those. I mean this, I think I'm thinking of Friends episodes, whenever someone like Phoebe or something met like, Mike's parents. If this is resonates to anyone that watches friends and she just starts talking in a British accent and Mike's just like, who the hell are you? Like, what are you doing?

8:11 Like, it's like, why are you doing that? Yes, the yoga teacher voice is something. We break. People of and going pro in our, in our trainings, that are sure. We're definitely not. Let that happen. I do not support the yoga voice, but people aren't able to hear themselves speak and that's where it starts. Yeah, totally.

8:32 It's the same thing with the feedback part of like, you know, any not any. But a lot of these pet peeves are talking about people are doing things that are distracting may be disrespectful that they don't know if they're not told, you know, so whether it be this the parent with the instructing the child, maybe it's showing up late.

8:49 Maybe Don't think it's a problem, you know, these types of things, but if someone shares it with you, then they'll know, right? So that's that's where we try to do for these and remembering back remembering back to like, I'm sure everyone can relate to this when we first can remember hearing our voice, right? Not that first time, but like the first several times, you heard our voice.

9:10 We're like, do I really sound like that? Really? And we're like, oh, I hate that sound. That sounds awful and that can continue through your Life that actually. And then that's what probably was that voice comes from. I think it all starts there. Yeah.

9:24 Yeah. I don't like the way I sound. So I'm going to make my style sound more Yogi. Yeah, whatever that idea of yoga. Whatever. That is. Yeah, cool. Awesome. I don't have anything else. That was my last one where we at TimeWise. We're pretty much on episode 3 right now. Okay.

9:40 Well, let's finish. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Do you have anything else you want to add as a student at Beaver student peddling? That carrier something that comes in? Oh, I actually have one more I do. It's kind of a soft pet peeve actually, and it's more so very unique to me, just because of my craft of just knowing the body. So well, so, one of the things I really like is when people talk about Anatomy, but one of the things I hate the most is when people talk about anatomy, And

10:05 the reason why that is, is, if you're going to say something in anatomy, make sure that people understand you, right? And I'm going to understand you, but I just think to myself, like that sounds really smart. But what the hell does that mean? Because, you know, the person beside me. No idea what you just said, right? So what was the example we used before something to do with? I don't remember.

10:27 But anyway, what I would say is like, if you say to do something and this is fact, this is kind of combines a little bit with the absolutes. But if this is, you know, this is the way things are, you know, engage this muscle.

10:39 Because our no nothing because just engage this muscle, right? This is the muscle that does this or something like that. It might get lost on people. I, we used to rate US. That's what it was. How's it? Example, that's right. Yeah, so pushing down through your hands to engage your serratus, muscle and whatever, whatever protract your shoulders, protractor shoulder push down through your hands and gauge your straight As muscle.

11:01 I'm thinking to my like and thinking to myself, like that's accurate. That's right, but I was like probably 80% of them have no idea what you just said, right? Push down through your hands and gauge your serratus, anterior, which is going to help to stabilize your shoulder a little bit more, and build up some stability in your shoulder.

11:18 This is also known as your boxer much. Muscle or something like that, you know, make a little bit more relatable and that might just be the fault of people like me and adding me, teachers filling in information, not giving it to be, relatable to the student either.

11:30 But say, yeah, but if so, basically, if someone does that, I don't really like, but I don't love it. But if they do it in a way, that's kind of a reason why, or this is because then I think it's great because I'm like, oh cool, other people are going to get that and it's, it's accurate. So that's a, that's a win for me. Yeah, totally is.

11:49 I was thinking about a couple of other little pet peeves as a student one of them being I don't like it. When the teacher isn't focused on the transitions allowed to safely bring us in and out of yoga poses. They don't need to be an expert but at least some attention to it. Something.

12:10 Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. This is like with the blocks kind of Well, so to me, I'm thinking like could be with your life, you're planning. If you're a sequencing, a class you're doing, you're teaching a class and you're in a pose where you're lying in your back and you're holding something.

12:24 And then all of a sudden, they say, now take your block and do this. And your block is like at the front of your mat where you can't reach. So you got to get out of the yoga pose. Yeah, go grab your block. Go back and yoga pose and then try to catch up. That's a great example.

12:36 The block situation, plan ahead, a little bit. I don't want to have to go like Chase, my blocker out of the room around the mat to, like, all the time. Like feel my breath and half the time, I don't need the fucking block anyways, so I'll get the block out of my face, please, but it's also other transitions like we're in Crescent twist.

12:54 Like how do we come out of the twist cross and twist or beginner? It's not super safe. And I love being guided as well. I like being guided like let's think about lying on your back. Like you can say, Okay bend your right knee to your chest. Extend your left leg forward, twist to the list of the left. Open your right arm to the right. Okay, then switch sides.

13:18 Right? Right, but I kind of like the the one by one Q. I like to be guided through same with crescent twist. Like bring me out of it. Like what do I need to do? First place your hands down, place your hands down or even more.

13:30 Like squeeze your inner thighs in stabilize your body. Place your hands down, step your left foot back. In the order that I do them. Just something doesn't have to be a whole lot to something. And there was another one that actually popped up to was the last one.

13:48 Is that the last one? No, whatever you got if you can you can think of it. Yeah, shoot a lot of pressure. Think about what pisses me off in yoga as a student. So it's the part of its the adjustment. So first of all, like this isn't related, but give me enough time in shavasana. That's a pet peeve.

14:09 If you don't give me enough time in shavasana ain't coming back to Yale class. Yeah, right. Right. The other thing is adjustments. I want the adjustments to be for a reason, not just to touch me and move on to the next student, because you wanted to touch everybody in the class. Yeah, I'm least.

14:24 I can feel that. Yeah, I can definitely feel that as well. And some people also have like, those people typically, they're not aware of it. So they have a sneak, your energy when they do touch you. And I don't feel like supported or seeing or take care of, I'm like, What's the fucking point of that?

14:39 Yeah. It's better to touch what I'm touched but They're modify someone quality wise and it is to do many people. I feel absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It's not about I mean, I don't teach touching people's not necessary any means. Yeah.

14:53 If you're a real good, let's say you have class 2015 15 to 30 and I'll pretty good size. You can get to everybody in class, but you got to be really good and start from the beginning. In some way might not be the same and you know, same type of adjustment.

15:09 But once construct is in shavasana or not. Not at all talking about like this could be a warrior 1 draw your right hip back and you're pushing to their back foot with your foot and you're lifting up through their shoulder.

15:20 Their side body, drawing the shoulders down, helping them. Yep. And then, yeah. And then one might be three might be in shavasana or one or something. And I get a spinal twist in there all throughout sprinkled. Yeah, that's the last one.

15:35 Yep. Yeah, it does. The last one can't believe we turn this into three episodes. Oh man. It's a lot. All you need. Is this all you need is just give us reason to not be polite and to say the things that are actually on her mind. Cool.

15:47 Awesome. Well, thanks so much for listening to this third episode of our pet peeves for yoga as teachers and students. I hope it was edgy enough for you guys. Yeah, fuckers. Yeah, if you didn't want to get too bad. No, but we do appreciate your feedback.

16:00 So anytime you did give us feedback even about these. Episodes of your thought, you know what? They're too edgy or I don't know whatever, just give it to us. We're happy to get all feedback all criticism constructive or other. That's it for us.

16:14 Much love. All right. Take care. We'll see you next time. Ciao. All right, listen up, everyone, Paul Byron. And myself have been working so hard on putting together a platform dedicated specifically to yoga teachers and the good news is, it's almost ready for you soon. This platform is going to be publicly released. Least but we want to actually make a special offer to those who have been dedicated to following us since the beginning.

16:40 So that's a lot of you listeners right now. We want to make a special offer for you. And if you are interested in being one of the founding members of this going pro platform, then you're going to have an opportunity to do. So, all you need to do is just go into any of the description of any episode and you'll be able to sign up to the waitlist for this going pro platform.

17:00 So that you can take advantage of this offer will hope to see you there.